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'''IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) SIG'''

Meetings are normally on the first Monday of the month at these times.

== Agenda ==
* Housekeeping
** Web links and landing pages all appear to be in hand
** We also now have a blog set up - plans for that? See http://iaoaswao.blogspot.co.uk/
* Continue our discussion on creating an introductory online/training tutorial
** Update on actions from last time
*** Feedback from Education Committee
*** "Gentle introduction to ontologies" - availability?
* Tutorial / training material and media
** White paper for business people
** Book - continue discussion / where were we on this?
* Issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology
** Current status
** Actions
* Ontology Summit
** Discussion for upcoming Ontology Summit planning meeting this Thursday (6 Nov)
* Something else this SIG can do (Mike B): Consensus Building
** We are planning various training, documentation and presentation ideas above
** Is there a clear map of where there is consensus and where there are simply different schools of thought?
*** Example: most authorities recognize a distinction between conceptual and operational ontologies but some don't
*** Example: some ontology designers leave out property domains and ranges for design reasons, others think this is wrong.
** Would it be a good role for this SIG to maintain a kind of wiki resource which identifies consensus, references; maybe guest blog posts defending one or another point of view or contextualizing a given "best practice" guideline?
*** Discussion...
** Existing resources we would want to collate and promote
*** Should we aim to maintain a library - or is that in hand via Education Committee?
*** In particular with reference to our mission to bridge the gaps between communities
* Membership, recruitment etc.
** Things we can do now the infrastructure is sorted out
** Brainstorm and share information about people and projects relevant to this SIG and reach out them to make them aware of our existence and maybe invite them for a talk or an informal chat.
*** Linked Data
*** Big Data
*** Terminology and related science
** Establish knowledge base and list of knowledgeable individuals, and understand current work, projects and interests
* AOB
* Next Meeting

== Chat transcript ==

[07:04] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Apologies:

[07:04] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Leo Obrst

[07:04] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Elie Abi-Lahoud

=== Housekeeping ===

[07:11] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Wiki links updated with the scripts

[07:11] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Names: There is an open action on these

[07:12] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: On the landing page you see all the details of some meeting but not others.

[07:12] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We still need to migrate the content from the old CIM3 pages for SWAO meetings prior to the transfer to the new wiki

[07:13] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Ken will track these down and transfer them.

[07:13] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Other housekeeping:

[07:14] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Ken is working on a registration system for when people email in to join the SIG.

[07:14] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: THis will be a web service page where people can put in their email address and then it goes into the approval from there.

[07:15] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Will including getting their required details e.g. wiki name and password and so on.

[07:15] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: This gives them full access to the wiki so they can edit their namesake page. They will also be able to edit any meeting page.

[07:16] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Elie still has no log-in so his account could be set up as a test of this?

[07:17] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Elie Abi-Lahoud

[07:18] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Wiki name could be one of 2 or 3 things depending how this translates to CamelCase

[07:18] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: I'll be calling in momentarily.

[07:18] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: Sorry that I am late. I had another call at 10am.

[07:19] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The IAOA SIGs page link:

[07:19] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: - the button works

[07:19] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: -the link to the SWAO page works

[07:20] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The list of SIGs further down the SIGs page still does not list the SWAO SIG - this needs to be addressed.

[07:22] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: So the links all work as required - we did not need to use the new blog as part of these links, however ...

[07:22] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We can think about what to use the blog for now.

[07:22] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Ideas:

[07:22] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Could have discussions, ideas and comments there.

[07:23] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: For example we could have a brief blog post that introduces a topic and use the comments for more discussion around the topic.

[07:24] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Separately, we could also invite full blog entries and start a conversation around those.

[07:24] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We also have the mailing list for conversations.

[07:24] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: IF we conect the blog to the mailing list then we could ensure that conversations on the blog are carried forward into the mailing list.

[07:25] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: How do we get people's attention to the blog?

[07:25] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: e.g. links from wiki and from SWAO website.

[07:25] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: If the blog is linked ot the mail list then when a new entry is posted this will be seen in the mailing list.

[07:26] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Andrea has a blog entry on how to do applied ontologies, i.e. "How to" from an applied ontology perspective.

[07:29] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: Do we need to register to post to the blog?

[07:30] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Jump forward to the "Consensus" part of the agenda...

[07:30] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: THere are things where not everyone agrees, but just as in databases, there are many best practices but no one way to do a database.

[07:32] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Do we need to collect multiple perspectives on some of the areas of the training and introduction material, so it's clear where the debates are.

[07:32] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Part of this would be to use the blog as a way of having that debate.

[07:32] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: So the blog can help us get a view of what are the areas that are still under discussion.

[07:32] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Blog Access

[07:33] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Everyone who has access to the wiki should be given access to the blog page.

[07:34] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The alternative is that the 3 or so people with login access end up having to be gatekeepers for the blog and have to post each entry themselves.

[07:34] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Option 1 above is more attractive.

[07:35] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The admins can always delete anything inappropriate if that happens.

[07:35] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: If the goal of the blog is to facilitate conversation about ontologies shouldn't it be open to anyone under the sun?

[07:36] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Given that the goal of shi SIG is promulgate best practices then we want to encourage everyone to ask questions.

[07:38] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Move towards a more open discussion via the blog - with admins stamping on any misbehavior if necessary.

[07:38] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: If there ends up being spam we might need to look at whether there is a way to block IP addresses if needed - wwould need to find otu from blogger.com

[07:39] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Consensus:

[07:39] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We all agree to try this as an experiment.

[07:39] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Mike will monitor.

[07:40] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Basic settings generally have that you can set who blog authors are - you can add authors, but can you "add public"?

[07:40] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: On Blogspot for instance you can't.

[07:42] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: If it's not possible to allow the unregistered public to create blog entries, then at least we can create a blog entry which asks for comments or opinions, and then everyone can pile in tot he conversation that way.

[07:43] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Mike to look into what can and can't be done in Blogger in the spirit of the above.

[07:43] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We should add everyone who has access to the wiki to be able to post.

[07:45] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Some of these may need to create new accounts with Blogger if they don't have already

[07:45] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: https://www.blogger.com/home

[07:46] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Are these the same thing as Blogspot?

[07:46] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: A BRIEF SET OF INSTRUCTIONS FOR SETTING UP A FREE BLOG USING BLOGGER AND BLOGSPOT.

[07:46] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: So you need a Google account to use this?

[07:47] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Our instructions to SIG members about needing an account should note that the account may be with either Blogger or BlogSpot, as these are the same thing.

[07:47] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: http://bloginstructions.blogspot.co.uk/

[07:48] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: I think that you just have to have some email account and have to register.

[07:48] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Get everyone who has access to wiki to send one of the admins their BlogSpot / Blogger account, and admin will then add them.

[07:49] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: This can be done as an email to the SIG circulation.

[07:50] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: All we would need to add someone to the blog write access might be just having an email address? OR they need to sign up.

[07:51] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We decided not to set up a fresh Blogger account inthe name of each person based on their email as this may result in people have multiple Blogger accounts. Consensus is we ask for their Blogger ID.

[07:51] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Actions:

[07:51] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 1. Put an email out as above

[07:52] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 2. Add a page to the WEbsite OR put it on another page...

[07:52] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Suggestion: put a link to this on the landing page.

[07:52] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Add text to the landing page.

[07:53] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: This is the SWAO website landing page AND the wiki landing page.

[07:53] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Encourage comments and conversation to go there.

[07:55] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: May also end up generating ideas for articles or white papers that the group generates, from these conversations.

[07:56] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Immediate aactions:

[07:56] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 1. first posting

[07:56] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 2. Content for the landing pages and email to drive people there.

[07:56] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: What sort of thing could first question-generating blog post?

[07:57] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: "What do you think an ontology is"

[07:57] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: "How do you use ontologies"

[07:57] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: "How do you abuse ontologies?"

[07:58] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: If we open with something like "what do you think an ontology is?" we immediately get into a debate.

[07:58] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: "Why should use or not use an upper ontology?"

[07:58] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Goal of first question is to get people's questions not give them the question.

[07:59] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Write up something that says what are the questions?

[07:59] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Don't want to set the wrong tone e.g. the philosophical example above.

[08:00] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: More specific: "What questions do you have AND What problems do you have?"

[08:00] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: "Ask the experts... which includes you!"

[08:00] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Volunteers: Andrea will take a first cut at this and send to the mail list

[08:00] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Mike can add instructions etc. once this is in flight, so people know how to follow up.

=== Online training etc. ===

==== Any update from the Education Ctee? ====

[08:05] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Leo would be the person they will have got back to.

[08:05] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Email Leo and find out if we have heard anything back from the EdC.

[08:05] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Mike will email Leo

[08:06] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Gentle Introduction ton Ontologies - did we hear from them? No

[08:06] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Mark Fox.

[08:07] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Andrea will reach out to Mark Fox.

[08:08] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: [@Mike, xx:07] Just sent an email to Mark.

[08:09] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Ontology Summit: Is there still a second session this Thursday or was moved to December?

[08:09] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Mike to confirm with Leo when the summit decision will be made.

[08:09] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: There were 3 proposals each of which needs to be fleshed out a bit.

[08:09] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Our proposal on the book is one of these.

[08:10] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The other proposals were to do with Big Data and about the Internet of Things.

[08:10] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Education could be a component of any of them.

[08:12] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: Sorry , but I need to go. Cheers.

[08:12] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: So for example a summit on the Internet of Things would need a track which pulsl together the existing knowledge on applied ontology and Semantic Web ontologies and shows how this would be adapted and used in the IoT requirements.

[08:13] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: So the book / [[BoK]] / wiki etc. ideas are still very much on our plate.

[08:13] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Decide on topic, focus and get an outline.

[08:14] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: What are we aiming to synthesize?

[08:16] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: for instance what would it take to do an ontology around the concepts in schema.org?

[08:16] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: THere are also different approaches to how to do things within schema.org i.e. the ways one can relate concepts to each other.

[08:17] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: THere may be someone looking at doing a schema.org representation in OWL - what would it take for that to be an ontology as we understand it, as distinct from merely being something.owl

[08:18] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: How can you ontologize schema.org or a sub-set thereof?

[08:18] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: Yes, not for standardization but for education and explanation.

[08:19] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: not for standardization perhaps but simply how to apply schema.org in a practical operational ontology application.

[08:19] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Correction the above may be DBPedia rather than schema.org

[08:20] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Sooner or later the idea will occur to someone.

[08:21] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: THe above would be well worth following up with DBPedia anyway so we can get some engagement from the LikedData folks.

[08:22] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Let's do some basic googling on who's doing what in these areas, and get some conversations going via the blog (after our first blog posting as above).

=== Issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology ===

[08:23] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Check back on earlier minutes for who had the action item on that.

[08:25] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action last time was to establish a couple of people to focus on this.

[08:26] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Volunteers: Ken and Andrea

[08:26] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: THey will take the role "Guest Editors" in pulling together the proposed issue of the Journal.

[08:26] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: I will take the lead on the special issue for Applied Ontology

[08:26] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: And I will help.

[08:27] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: ACtions will include doing a Call for Papers - so the Guest Editors will put together a CfP based on some of the ideas in the chat log.

[08:28] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Timelines? For the Special Issue (give us time to get ideas from the Blog).

[08:29] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Have concrete proposals for the meeting next month.

[08:29] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Can refine ideas following that.

=== Next Meeting ===

[08:29] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Is Dec 01.

=== AOB ===

[08:30] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: no

[08:32] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Convenor: Ken will be the convenor / facilitator for the next meeting

[08:33] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Ken will post the audio

[08:33] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: Meeting is adjourned

[08:38] List of attendees: [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]

== Audio Recording ==
* http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/ontology/SWAO/IAOA-SWAO-SIG-ConferenceCall_20141103a.mp3

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 [07:18] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Wiki name could be one of 2 or 3 things depending how this translates to CamelCase
-[07:18] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: I'll be calling in momentarily.
+[07:18] [[User:Tsch|Todd Schneider]]: I'll be calling in momentarily.
 [07:18] [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: Sorry that I am late. I had another call at 10am.
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 [07:46] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: A BRIEF SET OF INSTRUCTIONS FOR SETTING UP A FREE BLOG USING BLOGGER AND BLOGSPOT.
-[07:46] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: So you need a Google account to use this?
+[07:46] [[User:Tsch|Todd Schneider]]: So you need a Google account to use this?
 [07:47] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Our instructions to SIG members about needing an account should note that the account may be with either Blogger or BlogSpot, as these are the same thing.
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 [08:10] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Education could be a component of any of them.
-[08:12] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: Sorry , but I need to go. Cheers.
+[08:12] [[User:Tsch|Todd Schneider]]: Sorry , but I need to go. Cheers.
 [08:12] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: So for example a summit on the Internet of Things would need a track which pulsl together the existing knowledge on applied ontology and Semantic Web ontologies and shows how this would be adapted and used in the IoT requirements.
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 [08:33] [[User:Ken|Ken Baclawski]]: Meeting is adjourned
-[08:38] List of attendees: [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]], [[User:Ken|Ken Baclawski]], [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
+[08:38] List of attendees: [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]], [[User:Ken|Ken Baclawski]], [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[User:Tsch|Todd Schneider]]
 == Audio Recording ==

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 [08:26] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: THey will take the role "Guest Editors" in pulling together the proposed issue of the Journal.
-[08:26] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: I will take the lead on the special issue for Applied Ontology
+[08:26] [[User:Ken|Ken Baclawski]]: I will take the lead on the special issue for Applied Ontology
 [08:26] [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: And I will help.
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 [08:33] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Ken will post the audio
-[08:33] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: Meeting is adjourned
+[08:33] [[User:Ken|Ken Baclawski]]: Meeting is adjourned
-[08:38] List of attendees: [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
+[08:38] List of attendees: [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]], [[User:Ken|Ken Baclawski]], [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
 == Audio Recording ==

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 [07:18] [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]: I'll be calling in momentarily.
-[07:18] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: Sorry that I am late. I had another call at 10am.
+[07:18] [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: Sorry that I am late. I had another call at 10am.
 [07:19] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: The IAOA SIGs page link:
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 [07:26] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Andrea has a blog entry on how to do applied ontologies, i.e. "How to" from an applied ontology perspective.
-[07:29] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: Do we need to register to post to the blog?
+[07:29] [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: Do we need to register to post to the blog?
 [07:30] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Jump forward to the "Consensus" part of the agenda...
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 [07:47] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: http://bloginstructions.blogspot.co.uk/
-[07:48] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: I think that you just have to have some email account and have to register.
+[07:48] [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: I think that you just have to have some email account and have to register.
 [07:48] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Get everyone who has access to wiki to send one of the admins their BlogSpot / Blogger account, and admin will then add them.
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 [07:57] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: "How do you abuse ontologies?"
-[07:58] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: If we open with something like "what do you think an ontology is?" we immediately get into a debate.
+[07:58] [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: If we open with something like "what do you think an ontology is?" we immediately get into a debate.
 [07:58] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: "Why should use or not use an upper ontology?"
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 [08:07] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Action: Andrea will reach out to Mark Fox.
-[08:08] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: [@Mike, xx:07] Just sent an email to Mark.
+[08:08] [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: [@Mike, xx:07] Just sent an email to Mark.
 [08:09] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Ontology Summit: Is there still a second session this Thursday or was moved to December?
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 [08:18] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: How can you ontologize schema.org or a sub-set thereof?
-[08:18] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: Yes, not for standardization but for education and explanation.
+[08:18] [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: Yes, not for standardization but for education and explanation.
 [08:19] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: not for standardization perhaps but simply how to apply schema.org in a practical operational ontology application.
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 [08:26] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: I will take the lead on the special issue for Applied Ontology
-[08:26] [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: And I will help.
+[08:26] [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]: And I will help.
 [08:27] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: ACtions will include doing a Call for Papers - so the Guest Editors will put together a CfP based on some of the ideas in the chat log.
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 [08:33] [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]: Meeting is adjourned
-[08:38] List of attendees: [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
+[08:38] List of attendees: [[User:Arwesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]], [[User:KennethBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]], [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]], [[MikeDean|Mike Dean]], [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]
 == Audio Recording ==

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 ! scope="row" | Convener
-| [[convener::MikeBennett]]
+| [[convener::User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]
 |}