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'''IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) SIG'''
 
'''IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) SIG'''
  
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THIS MEETING TAKES PLACE ON FRIDAY 14 JANUARY 2022.
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THIS MEETING TOOK PLACE ON FRIDAY 14 JANUARY 2022. (Meetings have moved to the second Friday of the month at 2pm Eastern Time.)
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Meetings have moved to the second Friday of the month at 2pm Eastern Time.
 
  
 
* We use Zoom for these meetings - details at [[SWAO:Connection Details GTM|Connection Details]]  
 
* We use Zoom for these meetings - details at [[SWAO:Connection Details GTM|Connection Details]]  
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* Actions from last meeting
 
* Actions from last meeting
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** RobertR liaison status with the IAOA Education Committee
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** RobertR liaison status with the IAOA Education Committee still has not occurred since no meetings have yet been held
 
* Discussion/presentation of RobertR's ontology definitions spreadsheet
 
* Discussion/presentation of RobertR's ontology definitions spreadsheet
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** RobertR to provide link in advance
 
 
* Discussion of the [https://jbiomedsem.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13326-017-0172-7 MIRO article]
 
* Discussion of the [https://jbiomedsem.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13326-017-0172-7 MIRO article]
 
* Continued discussion of ontology and knowledge graph definitions from the December SWAO meeting
 
* Continued discussion of ontology and knowledge graph definitions from the December SWAO meeting
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== Proceedings ==
 
== Proceedings ==
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* Preliminary discussion about the antifraud ontology announced on the Ontology Forum distribution list
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** [https://gaoinnovations.gov/antifraud_resource/ GAO Antifraud Resource] is based on [https://gaoinnovations.gov/antifraud_resource/howfraudworks GAO’s Fraud Ontology] — "a rigorous classification of fraud schemes affecting federal programs and operations—serves as the backbone for understanding, evaluating, and measuring all aspects of federal fraud schemes, including their participants, mechanisms, and impacts"
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*** The site provides a user friendly, web-based platform for interacting with the model and identifying resources to support fraud risk management
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*** This project was overviewed by Leia Dickerson in the 2021 Ontology Summit series
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*** Question was raised whether this could be more integrated with cyber security
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* For the next 6 months or so, SWAO will need another individual to run the meetings (AndreaW has several other commitments, as does MikeB)
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** Either ToddS or KenB will run the sessions for the coming months
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** AndreaW updated the SWAO meeting connection details to reflect KenB's Zoom information
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* Discussion of upper ontologies migrated to a discussion of the use of BFO in the IOF ([https://www.industrialontologies.org/ Industry Ontology Foundry])
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** The majority of the following insights on IOF were provided by ToddS:
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*** Development principles for IOF are in harmony with OntoCommons
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*** IOF is less concerned about BFO's requirement of realism and more concerned with 'practical application' for physics and mathematics for manufacturing
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*** IOF Core to be released soon, with BFO formally embedded
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*** A release where BFO is "hidden" has also been discussed as a possibility
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*** BFO, Dolce and UFO were originally studied as options for the foundational ontology
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*** BFO was chosen but the criteria for evaluation may have been incomplete
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*** Results from the evaluation included that the BFO natural language descriptions were better and that Dolce was too axiomatized
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*** Is valuable to understand where BFO is used and where it is used but "worked around"
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** There is concern that all upper ontologies could be rejected due to issues with one (such as BFO)
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** Committing to an upper ontology means committing to its conceptual distinctions
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*** These need to be evaluated that they are relevant and consistent with the desired world view
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* Discussion of the [https://jbiomedsem.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13326-017-0172-7 MIRO article]
  
 
=== Next Meeting ===
 
=== Next Meeting ===
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The next meeting will occur on February 11, 2022, at 19:00 GMT/2pm EST.
  
 
== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
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* Ken Baclawski
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* Mike Bennett
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* Robert Rovetto
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* Todd Schneider
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* Andrea Westerinen
  
 
== Previous Meetings ==
 
== Previous Meetings ==

Revision as of 03:47, 31 January 2022

Number 95
Duration 1 hour60 minute
3,600 second
0.0417 day
Date/Time January 14 2022 19:00 GMT
11:00am PST/2:00pm EST
7:00pm GMT/8:00pm CET
Convener Andrea Westerinen

IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) SIG

THIS MEETING TOOK PLACE ON FRIDAY 14 JANUARY 2022. (Meetings have moved to the second Friday of the month at 2pm Eastern Time.)

Agenda

  • Actions from last meeting
    • RobertR liaison status with the IAOA Education Committee still has not occurred since no meetings have yet been held
  • Discussion/presentation of RobertR's ontology definitions spreadsheet
  • Discussion of the MIRO article
  • Continued discussion of ontology and knowledge graph definitions from the December SWAO meeting
  • Housekeeping and next meeting
  • AoB

Proceedings

  • Preliminary discussion about the antifraud ontology announced on the Ontology Forum distribution list
    • GAO Antifraud Resource is based on GAO’s Fraud Ontology — "a rigorous classification of fraud schemes affecting federal programs and operations—serves as the backbone for understanding, evaluating, and measuring all aspects of federal fraud schemes, including their participants, mechanisms, and impacts"
      • The site provides a user friendly, web-based platform for interacting with the model and identifying resources to support fraud risk management
      • This project was overviewed by Leia Dickerson in the 2021 Ontology Summit series
      • Question was raised whether this could be more integrated with cyber security
  • For the next 6 months or so, SWAO will need another individual to run the meetings (AndreaW has several other commitments, as does MikeB)
    • Either ToddS or KenB will run the sessions for the coming months
    • AndreaW updated the SWAO meeting connection details to reflect KenB's Zoom information
  • Discussion of upper ontologies migrated to a discussion of the use of BFO in the IOF (Industry Ontology Foundry)
    • The majority of the following insights on IOF were provided by ToddS:
      • Development principles for IOF are in harmony with OntoCommons
      • IOF is less concerned about BFO's requirement of realism and more concerned with 'practical application' for physics and mathematics for manufacturing
      • IOF Core to be released soon, with BFO formally embedded
      • A release where BFO is "hidden" has also been discussed as a possibility
      • BFO, Dolce and UFO were originally studied as options for the foundational ontology
      • BFO was chosen but the criteria for evaluation may have been incomplete
      • Results from the evaluation included that the BFO natural language descriptions were better and that Dolce was too axiomatized
      • Is valuable to understand where BFO is used and where it is used but "worked around"
    • There is concern that all upper ontologies could be rejected due to issues with one (such as BFO)
    • Committing to an upper ontology means committing to its conceptual distinctions
      • These need to be evaluated that they are relevant and consistent with the desired world view

Next Meeting

The next meeting will occur on February 11, 2022, at 19:00 GMT/2pm EST.

Attendees

  • Ken Baclawski
  • Mike Bennett
  • Robert Rovetto
  • Todd Schneider
  • Andrea Westerinen

Previous Meetings

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