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| − | List of attendees: [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]], [[  | + | List of attendees: [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]], [[User:Leo Obrst|Leo Obrst]], [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]],  | 
| − | [15:02] [[  | + | [15:02] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Apologies:  | 
| − | [15:02] [[  | + | [15:02] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Naicong Li  | 
| − | [15:02] [[  | + | [15:02] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Andrea Westerinen  | 
[15:06] anonymous morphed into [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]  | [15:06] anonymous morphed into [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]  | ||
| − | [15:22] [[  | + | [15:22] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Blog:  | 
| − | [15:22] [[  | + | [15:22] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: People can apply to be an Author - by email to Mike or Andrea, and we will add you  | 
| − | [15:22] [[  | + | [15:22] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: The blog does not allow anonymous comments  | 
| − | [15:22] [[  | + | [15:22] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: THe blog does allow anyonw who is logged in to their Google account to post.  | 
| − | [15:23] [[  | + | [15:23] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Publicizing the Blog  | 
| − | [15:24] [[  | + | [15:24] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Everyone can please hit the Google+ Facebook, Twitter button to let their followes know of it  | 
| − | [15:24] [[  | + | [15:24] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: We can also post to various lists...  | 
| − | [15:25] [[  | + | [15:25] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Leo has a list of lists we can use.  | 
| − | [15:26] [[  | + | [15:26] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: ACTION Leo will send this list to the swao list, then Mike or others can post links to the SWAP blog. We can carve that work up.  | 
| − | [15:27] [[  | + | [15:27] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: URI Linking  | 
| − | [15:27] [[  | + | [15:27] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Can we make this a sub-domain off the IAOA domain e.g. swao.iaoa.org  | 
| − | [15:28] [[  | + | [15:28] [[User:Leo Obrst|Leo Obrst]]: I found the list of distribution lists I compiled for Ontology Summit 2014: I'll post to the chat.  | 
| − | [15:28] [[  | + | [15:28] [[User:Leo Obrst|Leo Obrst]]: 'semantic-web@w3.org'  | 
'ifla-l@infoserv.inist.fr'  | 'ifla-l@infoserv.inist.fr'  | ||
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iaoa-general@ontolog.cim3.net  | iaoa-general@ontolog.cim3.net  | ||
| − | [15:29] [[  | + | [15:29] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Blogspot allows you do that. Requires the registrar of the iaoa domain to co-ordinate.  | 
| − | [15:29] [[  | + | [15:29] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: We would have to run this by the the Executive Council of IAOA.  | 
| − | [15:29] [[  | + | [15:29] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Frank Loebe and Oliver Kutz would end up doing the work on this.  | 
| − | [15:30] [[  | + | [15:30] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: The choices we would have include:  | 
| − | [15:30] [[  | + | [15:30] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: swao.iaoa.org  | 
| − | [15:30] [[  | + | [15:30] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: swao-blog.iaoa.org  | 
| − | [15:30] [[  | + | [15:30] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: www.iaoa.org/swao-blog  | 
| − | [15:31] [[  | + | [15:31] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: www.iaoa.org/swao/this and that  | 
| − | [15:31] [[  | + | [15:31] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: (we have 34 things already: Blog, website and wiki  | 
| − | [15:31] [[  | + | [15:31] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: ^ 3 things  | 
| − | [15:33] [[  | + | [15:33] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: The website is at:  | 
| − | [15:33] [[  | + | [15:33] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: https://iaoa.orgsig/swao/  | 
| − | [15:33] [[  | + | [15:33] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: So we could have something like:  | 
| − | [15:33] [[  | + | [15:33] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: www.iaoa.org/sig/swao/blog  | 
| − | [15:34] [[  | + | [15:34] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: or www.iaoa.org/sig/swao-blog  | 
| − | [15:34] [[  | + | [15:34] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Other SIG pages follow directly from www.iaoa.org without the intervening /sig/ fragment  | 
| − | [15:35] [[  | + | [15:35] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: So it would make sense to have a conversation with Frank and Oliver to get our SIG pages consistent with the other SIG pages.  | 
[15:35] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: Looking at the SWAO menu inks, they follow this example: https://iaoa.orgsig/swao/charter.html  | [15:35] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: Looking at the SWAO menu inks, they follow this example: https://iaoa.orgsig/swao/charter.html  | ||
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[15:36] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: ^ menu links  | [15:36] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: ^ menu links  | ||
| − | [15:37] [[  | + | [15:37] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Once we know what path we want, can we get blogspot to link to a sub-directory structure.  | 
| − | [15:37] [[  | + | [15:37] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: ACTION: Bart will look into whether links to a sub directory can be done, since this is different to pointing just the IP address to a different place.  | 
| − | [15:37] [[  | + | [15:37] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: It might not be trivial since you're linking sub directory versus IP.  | 
| − | [15:39] [[  | + | [15:39] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Use of Question and Answer platforms (Bart)  | 
| − | [15:39] [[  | + | [15:39] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: We are inverting the use of the blog to be more like a Q and A platform.  | 
| − | [15:39] [[  | + | [15:39] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: there are platofrms which do this: Quora, StackExchange  | 
| − | [15:40] [[  | + | [15:40] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: StackExchange has different sites with different topics.  | 
| − | [15:40] [[  | + | [15:40] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: We coulc propose to create a new site for Semantic Web Applied Ontologies to be one of those sites.  | 
| − | [15:40] [[  | + | [15:40] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: this also has features for people to rank answers, etc.  | 
| − | [15:40] [[  | + | [15:40] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Also there are platforms you can install locally to do that.  | 
| − | [15:40] [[  | + | [15:40] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Options are therefore 2:  | 
| − | [15:40] [[  | + | [15:40] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: 1. Propose a new site on StackExchange  | 
| − | [15:41] [[  | + | [15:41] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: 2. Install the platform locally  | 
| − | [15:42] [[  | + | [15:42] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Question: is (1) above a thing worth doing regardless of what we do with the blog?  | 
[15:43] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: Here's the site where all StackExchange sites are listed: http://stackexchange.com/sites  | [15:43] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: Here's the site where all StackExchange sites are listed: http://stackexchange.com/sites  | ||
| − | [15:43] [[  | + | [15:43] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: StackOverflow is one of the StackExchange sites. StackExchange is the platform itself.  | 
| − | [15:44] [[  | + | [15:44] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Profile and reputation: these are kept separate but you can have an overall profile across the sites.  | 
| − | [15:45] [[  | + | [15:45] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Currently any references to ontology seem to be on StackOverflow.  | 
| − | [15:45] [[  | + | [15:45] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: There is also a philosophy StackExchange  | 
| − | [15:46] [[  | + | [15:46] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: There is also a Philosophy one  | 
| − | [15:47] [[  | + | [15:47] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Also Data Science  | 
[15:47] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: Searching the sites for semantic web we find these results: http://stackexchange.com/search?q=semantic+web  | [15:47] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: Searching the sites for semantic web we find these results: http://stackexchange.com/search?q=semantic+web  | ||
| − | [15:47] [[  | + | [15:47] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: But nothing dedicated to ontologies and semantics.  | 
| − | [15:48] [[  | + | [15:48] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: We could create a StackExchange site whose name and scope are broad enough to embrace all the areas which this SIG intends to bring together and bridge the gaps between  | 
| − | [15:48] [[  | + | [15:48] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Namely Semantic Web, applied ontology, ...  | 
| − | [15:48] [[  | + | [15:48] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: cognitive computing?  | 
| − | [15:49] [[  | + | [15:49] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: i.e. make this a one stop shop for all questions semantic and ontology based.  | 
[15:49] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: these results fall under http://stackoverflow.com(the general technology related topics) and http://philosophy.stackexchange.com  | [15:49] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: these results fall under http://stackoverflow.com(the general technology related topics) and http://philosophy.stackexchange.com  | ||
| − | [15:50] [[  | + | [15:50] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: We could then also get admins on the math and philosophy sites to move questions over to us if these are more relevant to our area.  | 
[15:50] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: ^ http://stackoverflow.com  | [15:50] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: ^ http://stackoverflow.com  | ||
| − | [15:51] [[  | + | [15:51] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: We are not exactly a quorum but let's propose to do this, independently of whatever we do with the blog.  | 
| − | [15:52] [[  | + | [15:52] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: ACTION: Bart will look into what is involved with creating a new StackExchange site.  | 
| − | [15:52] [[  | + | [15:52] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: .  | 
| − | [15:52] [[  | + | [15:52] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: On ethe earlier action: Blogspot does NOT allow for linking a blog to a path uner and existing URL.  | 
| − | [15:56] [[  | + | [15:56] [[User:MikeHypercube|Mike Bennett]]: Meeting ended 10:55 EDT  | 
Latest revision as of 01:36, 15 November 2019
| Number | 15 | 
|---|---|
| Duration | 1.5 hour90 minute  5,400 second 0.0625 day  | 
| Date/Time | Jan 05 2015 15:00 GMT | 
| 7:00 PST/10:00 EST | |
| 3:00pm BST/4:00pm CET | |
| Convener | Mike Bennett | 
IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) SIG
Meetings are normally on the first Monday of the month at these times.
Agenda
- Housekeeping
- Wiki: general / indexing etc.
 - New blog - see http://iaoaswao.blogspot.co.uk/
 - Publicizing the Blog
 - Discuss possibilities for linking to IAOA URL structure
 - Discuss possible use of Q and A site / features
 
 
- Issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology
- Status update - we now have the details for this
 - Next actions
 
 
- Tutorial / training material and media
- White paper for business people
 - Introductory online/training tutorial
- Feedback from Education Committee
 - "Gentle introduction to ontologies" - availability
 
 - Book - continue discussion / where were we on this?
 
 
- Consensus Building
- Role for this SIG to maintain a kind of wiki resource which identifies consensus, references.
 - Existing resources we would want to collate and promote
 - Should we aim to maintain a library?
 - Knowledge base and list of knowledgeable individuals, and understand current work, projects and interests
 
 
- Membership, recruitment etc.
- Things we can do now the infrastructure is sorted out
 - Brainstorm and share information about people and projects relevant to this SIG
- Linked Data
 - Big Data
 - Terminology and related science
 - Internet of Things
 - Cognitive Computing
 
 - Reach out them to make them aware of our existence
 - Maybe invite them for a talk or an informal chat
 
 
- AOB
 
- Next Meeting
 
Meeting Chat Log (Raw)
List of attendees: Bart Gajderowicz, Leo Obrst, Mike Bennett,
[15:02] Mike Bennett: Apologies:
[15:02] Mike Bennett: Naicong Li
[15:02] Mike Bennett: Andrea Westerinen
[15:06] anonymous morphed into Bart Gajderowicz
[15:22] Mike Bennett: Blog:
[15:22] Mike Bennett: People can apply to be an Author - by email to Mike or Andrea, and we will add you
[15:22] Mike Bennett: The blog does not allow anonymous comments
[15:22] Mike Bennett: THe blog does allow anyonw who is logged in to their Google account to post.
[15:23] Mike Bennett: Publicizing the Blog
[15:24] Mike Bennett: Everyone can please hit the Google+ Facebook, Twitter button to let their followes know of it
[15:24] Mike Bennett: We can also post to various lists...
[15:25] Mike Bennett: Leo has a list of lists we can use.
[15:26] Mike Bennett: ACTION Leo will send this list to the swao list, then Mike or others can post links to the SWAP blog. We can carve that work up.
[15:27] Mike Bennett: URI Linking
[15:27] Mike Bennett: Can we make this a sub-domain off the IAOA domain e.g. swao.iaoa.org
[15:28] Leo Obrst: I found the list of distribution lists I compiled for Ontology Summit 2014: I'll post to the chat.
[15:28] Leo Obrst: 'semantic-web@w3.org'
'ifla-l@infoserv.inist.fr'
'diglib@infoserv.inist.fr'
'public-semnews@w3.org'
'SEMANTICWEB@yahoogroups.com'
'public-egov-ig@w3.org'
'public-esw-thes@w3.org'
'public-lod@w3.org'
'dl@dl.kr.org'
'IRList@lists.shef.ac.uk'
'dbworld@cs.wisc.edu'
PlanetKR@kr.org
obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
AI-SGES@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
KMgov kmgov@list.jpl.nasa.gov
iaoa-general@ontolog.cim3.net
[ontolog-invitation] ontolog-invitation@ontolog.cim3.net
Ontology Summit 2014 ontology-summit@ontolog.cim3.net
'[ontolog-forum] ' ontolog-forum@ontolog.cim3.net
protege-user@lists.stanford.edu
iaoa-member@ontolog.cim3.net
iaoa-general@ontolog.cim3.net
[15:29] Mike Bennett: Blogspot allows you do that. Requires the registrar of the iaoa domain to co-ordinate.
[15:29] Mike Bennett: We would have to run this by the the Executive Council of IAOA.
[15:29] Mike Bennett: Frank Loebe and Oliver Kutz would end up doing the work on this.
[15:30] Mike Bennett: The choices we would have include:
[15:30] Mike Bennett: swao.iaoa.org
[15:30] Mike Bennett: swao-blog.iaoa.org
[15:30] Mike Bennett: www.iaoa.org/swao-blog
[15:31] Mike Bennett: www.iaoa.org/swao/this and that
[15:31] Mike Bennett: (we have 34 things already: Blog, website and wiki
[15:31] Mike Bennett: ^ 3 things
[15:33] Mike Bennett: The website is at:
[15:33] Mike Bennett: https://iaoa.orgsig/swao/
[15:33] Mike Bennett: So we could have something like:
[15:33] Mike Bennett: www.iaoa.org/sig/swao/blog
[15:34] Mike Bennett: or www.iaoa.org/sig/swao-blog
[15:34] Mike Bennett: Other SIG pages follow directly from www.iaoa.org without the intervening /sig/ fragment
[15:35] Mike Bennett: So it would make sense to have a conversation with Frank and Oliver to get our SIG pages consistent with the other SIG pages.
[15:35] Bart Gajderowicz: Looking at the SWAO menu inks, they follow this example: https://iaoa.orgsig/swao/charter.html
[15:36] Bart Gajderowicz: ^ menu links
[15:37] Mike Bennett: Once we know what path we want, can we get blogspot to link to a sub-directory structure.
[15:37] Mike Bennett: ACTION: Bart will look into whether links to a sub directory can be done, since this is different to pointing just the IP address to a different place.
[15:37] Mike Bennett: It might not be trivial since you're linking sub directory versus IP.
[15:39] Mike Bennett: Use of Question and Answer platforms (Bart)
[15:39] Mike Bennett: We are inverting the use of the blog to be more like a Q and A platform.
[15:39] Mike Bennett: there are platofrms which do this: Quora, StackExchange
[15:40] Mike Bennett: StackExchange has different sites with different topics.
[15:40] Mike Bennett: We coulc propose to create a new site for Semantic Web Applied Ontologies to be one of those sites.
[15:40] Mike Bennett: this also has features for people to rank answers, etc.
[15:40] Mike Bennett: Also there are platforms you can install locally to do that.
[15:40] Mike Bennett: Options are therefore 2:
[15:40] Mike Bennett: 1. Propose a new site on StackExchange
[15:41] Mike Bennett: 2. Install the platform locally
[15:42] Mike Bennett: Question: is (1) above a thing worth doing regardless of what we do with the blog?
[15:43] Bart Gajderowicz: Here's the site where all StackExchange sites are listed: http://stackexchange.com/sites
[15:43] Mike Bennett: StackOverflow is one of the StackExchange sites. StackExchange is the platform itself.
[15:44] Mike Bennett: Profile and reputation: these are kept separate but you can have an overall profile across the sites.
[15:45] Mike Bennett: Currently any references to ontology seem to be on StackOverflow.
[15:45] Mike Bennett: There is also a philosophy StackExchange
[15:46] Mike Bennett: There is also a Philosophy one
[15:47] Mike Bennett: Also Data Science
[15:47] Bart Gajderowicz: Searching the sites for semantic web we find these results: http://stackexchange.com/search?q=semantic+web
[15:47] Mike Bennett: But nothing dedicated to ontologies and semantics.
[15:48] Mike Bennett: We could create a StackExchange site whose name and scope are broad enough to embrace all the areas which this SIG intends to bring together and bridge the gaps between
[15:48] Mike Bennett: Namely Semantic Web, applied ontology, ...
[15:48] Mike Bennett: cognitive computing?
[15:49] Mike Bennett: i.e. make this a one stop shop for all questions semantic and ontology based.
[15:49] Bart Gajderowicz: these results fall under http://stackoverflow.com(the general technology related topics) and http://philosophy.stackexchange.com
[15:50] Mike Bennett: We could then also get admins on the math and philosophy sites to move questions over to us if these are more relevant to our area.
[15:50] Bart Gajderowicz: ^ http://stackoverflow.com
[15:51] Mike Bennett: We are not exactly a quorum but let's propose to do this, independently of whatever we do with the blog.
[15:52] Mike Bennett: ACTION: Bart will look into what is involved with creating a new StackExchange site.
[15:52] Mike Bennett: .
[15:52] Mike Bennett: On ethe earlier action: Blogspot does NOT allow for linking a blog to a path uner and existing URL.
[15:56] Mike Bennett: Meeting ended 10:55 EDT