SWAO:Conference Call 20150105

Number	15
Duration	1.5 hour90 minute 5,400 second 0.0625 day
Date/Time	Jan 05 2015 15:00 GMT
	7:00 PST/10:00 EST
	3:00pm BST/4:00pm CET
Convener	Mike Bennett

IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) SIG

Meetings are normally on the first Monday of the month at these times.

Agenda

• Housekeeping
  • Wiki: general / indexing etc.
  • New blog - see http://iaoaswao.blogspot.co.uk/
  • Publicizing the Blog
  • Discuss possibilities for linking to IAOA URL structure
  • Discuss possible use of Q and A site / features

• Issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology
  • Status update - we now have the details for this
  • Next actions

• Tutorial / training material and media
  • White paper for business people
  • Introductory online/training tutorial
    • Feedback from Education Committee
    • "Gentle introduction to ontologies" - availability
  • Book - continue discussion / where were we on this?

• Consensus Building
  • Role for this SIG to maintain a kind of wiki resource which identifies consensus, references.
  • Existing resources we would want to collate and promote
  • Should we aim to maintain a library?
  • Knowledge base and list of knowledgeable individuals, and understand current work, projects and interests

• Membership, recruitment etc.
  • Things we can do now the infrastructure is sorted out
  • Brainstorm and share information about people and projects relevant to this SIG
    • Linked Data
    • Big Data
    • Terminology and related science
    • Internet of Things
    • Cognitive Computing
  • Reach out them to make them aware of our existence
  • Maybe invite them for a talk or an informal chat

• AOB

• Next Meeting

Meeting Chat Log (Raw)

List of attendees: Bart Gajderowicz, Leo Obrst, Mike Bennett,

[15:02] Mike Bennett: Apologies:

[15:02] Mike Bennett: Naicong Li

[15:02] Mike Bennett: Andrea Westerinen

[15:06] anonymous morphed into Bart Gajderowicz

[15:22] Mike Bennett: Blog:

[15:22] Mike Bennett: People can apply to be an Author - by email to Mike or Andrea, and we will add you

[15:22] Mike Bennett: The blog does not allow anonymous comments

[15:22] Mike Bennett: THe blog does allow anyonw who is logged in to their Google account to post.

[15:23] Mike Bennett: Publicizing the Blog

[15:24] Mike Bennett: Everyone can please hit the Google+ Facebook, Twitter button to let their followes know of it

[15:24] Mike Bennett: We can also post to various lists...

[15:25] Mike Bennett: Leo has a list of lists we can use.

[15:26] Mike Bennett: ACTION Leo will send this list to the swao list, then Mike or others can post links to the SWAP blog. We can carve that work up.

[15:27] Mike Bennett: URI Linking

[15:27] Mike Bennett: Can we make this a sub-domain off the IAOA domain e.g. swao.iaoa.org

[15:28] Leo Obrst: I found the list of distribution lists I compiled for Ontology Summit 2014: I'll post to the chat.

[15:28] Leo Obrst: 'semantic-web@w3.org'

'ifla-l@infoserv.inist.fr'

'diglib@infoserv.inist.fr'

'public-semnews@w3.org'

'SEMANTICWEB@yahoogroups.com'

'public-egov-ig@w3.org'

'public-esw-thes@w3.org'

'public-lod@w3.org'

'dl@dl.kr.org'

'IRList@lists.shef.ac.uk'

'dbworld@cs.wisc.edu'

PlanetKR@kr.org

obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net

public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org

AI-SGES@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

KMgov kmgov@list.jpl.nasa.gov

iaoa-general@ontolog.cim3.net

[ontolog-invitation] ontolog-invitation@ontolog.cim3.net

Ontology Summit 2014 ontology-summit@ontolog.cim3.net

'[ontolog-forum] ' ontolog-forum@ontolog.cim3.net

protege-user@lists.stanford.edu

iaoa-member@ontolog.cim3.net

iaoa-general@ontolog.cim3.net

[15:29] Mike Bennett: Blogspot allows you do that. Requires the registrar of the iaoa domain to co-ordinate.

[15:29] Mike Bennett: We would have to run this by the the Executive Council of IAOA.

[15:29] Mike Bennett: Frank Loebe and Oliver Kutz would end up doing the work on this.

[15:30] Mike Bennett: The choices we would have include:

[15:30] Mike Bennett: swao.iaoa.org

[15:30] Mike Bennett: swao-blog.iaoa.org

[15:30] Mike Bennett: www.iaoa.org/swao-blog

[15:31] Mike Bennett: www.iaoa.org/swao/this and that

[15:31] Mike Bennett: (we have 34 things already: Blog, website and wiki

[15:31] Mike Bennett: ^ 3 things

[15:33] Mike Bennett: The website is at:

[15:33] Mike Bennett: https://iaoa.orgsig/swao/

[15:33] Mike Bennett: So we could have something like:

[15:33] Mike Bennett: www.iaoa.org/sig/swao/blog

[15:34] Mike Bennett: or www.iaoa.org/sig/swao-blog

[15:34] Mike Bennett: Other SIG pages follow directly from www.iaoa.org without the intervening /sig/ fragment

[15:35] Mike Bennett: So it would make sense to have a conversation with Frank and Oliver to get our SIG pages consistent with the other SIG pages.

[15:35] Bart Gajderowicz: Looking at the SWAO menu inks, they follow this example: https://iaoa.orgsig/swao/charter.html

[15:36] Bart Gajderowicz: ^ menu links

[15:37] Mike Bennett: Once we know what path we want, can we get blogspot to link to a sub-directory structure.

[15:37] Mike Bennett: ACTION: Bart will look into whether links to a sub directory can be done, since this is different to pointing just the IP address to a different place.

[15:37] Mike Bennett: It might not be trivial since you're linking sub directory versus IP.

[15:39] Mike Bennett: Use of Question and Answer platforms (Bart)

[15:39] Mike Bennett: We are inverting the use of the blog to be more like a Q and A platform.

[15:39] Mike Bennett: there are platofrms which do this: Quora, StackExchange

[15:40] Mike Bennett: StackExchange has different sites with different topics.

[15:40] Mike Bennett: We coulc propose to create a new site for Semantic Web Applied Ontologies to be one of those sites.

[15:40] Mike Bennett: this also has features for people to rank answers, etc.

[15:40] Mike Bennett: Also there are platforms you can install locally to do that.

[15:40] Mike Bennett: Options are therefore 2:

[15:40] Mike Bennett: 1. Propose a new site on StackExchange

[15:41] Mike Bennett: 2. Install the platform locally

[15:42] Mike Bennett: Question: is (1) above a thing worth doing regardless of what we do with the blog?

[15:43] Bart Gajderowicz: Here's the site where all StackExchange sites are listed: http://stackexchange.com/sites

[15:43] Mike Bennett: StackOverflow is one of the StackExchange sites. StackExchange is the platform itself.

[15:44] Mike Bennett: Profile and reputation: these are kept separate but you can have an overall profile across the sites.

[15:45] Mike Bennett: Currently any references to ontology seem to be on StackOverflow.

[15:45] Mike Bennett: There is also a philosophy StackExchange

[15:46] Mike Bennett: There is also a Philosophy one

[15:47] Mike Bennett: Also Data Science

[15:47] Bart Gajderowicz: Searching the sites for semantic web we find these results: http://stackexchange.com/search?q=semantic+web

[15:47] Mike Bennett: But nothing dedicated to ontologies and semantics.

[15:48] Mike Bennett: We could create a StackExchange site whose name and scope are broad enough to embrace all the areas which this SIG intends to bring together and bridge the gaps between

[15:48] Mike Bennett: Namely Semantic Web, applied ontology, ...

[15:48] Mike Bennett: cognitive computing?

[15:49] Mike Bennett: i.e. make this a one stop shop for all questions semantic and ontology based.

[15:49] Bart Gajderowicz: these results fall under http://stackoverflow.com(the general technology related topics) and http://philosophy.stackexchange.com

[15:50] Mike Bennett: We could then also get admins on the math and philosophy sites to move questions over to us if these are more relevant to our area.

[15:50] Bart Gajderowicz: ^ http://stackoverflow.com

[15:51] Mike Bennett: We are not exactly a quorum but let's propose to do this, independently of whatever we do with the blog.

[15:52] Mike Bennett: ACTION: Bart will look into what is involved with creating a new StackExchange site.

[15:52] Mike Bennett: .

[15:52] Mike Bennett: On ethe earlier action: Blogspot does NOT allow for linking a blog to a path uner and existing URL.

[15:56] Mike Bennett: Meeting ended 10:55 EDT

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